Peter R de Vries heeft verkeerde informatie op zijn website staan. Louis Hagemann’s vriendin heeft mij enkele PVs gegeven (proces verbaal), maar doet ook wat vaag. Wat weten we over Joanne? [pdf van PVs 10 sept_1985]
1. On Tuesday September 10 1985, Joanne meets Louis Hagemann at Amsterdam Central Station at about 16.00h. Joanne and Louis indeed have met, as friend Penny walked with her towards CS. This is the last time she has been seen. After September 10, there have been rumours about where she was, but all of these were indirect and “talk-on-the-street”.
- September 7, Joanne Wilson is fired at Hotel Kabul, because her working permit will expire per October 1 (she still has vacation days). Manager René Wijngaarden pays her the Fl. 650,- he ows her. Likely, she spends September 8 with boyfriend Steve.
- On September 10 the amount of Fl. 650,- is deposited in Joanne Wilsons’s bank account at the “Verenigde Spaarbanken” in Amsterdam. To make a deposit, one needs both the money (of course), and a banking notebook with deposit cards. Likely, Joanne made the deposit herself on Tuesday in the morning.
- It is unclear why she did not make a deposit on Monday September 9. Actually, it is unclear what she did on September 9. Did she even sleep at home September 9-10? When studying the testimony of Steve, it seems he believes Joanne left the house on Monday around 1300h to meet Penny (and this is then the last day he saw her). Penny meets Joanne at around 1300h on September 10. This can mean two things: a) Steve confuses Monday with Tuesday, which is not uncommon for people with a profession in which weekend days are actually working days. Or b) Joanne somehow was lost a day between Monday 9 @1300 and Tuesday 10 @1300h, but Penny must know this!
- Oddly, on September 10, a criminal informant (number #300) makes a statement to the police about a missing girl Joanne Wilson, even though at that time she wasnot missing yet. Beside describing Joanne Wilson as someone who sleeps around and is actively involved in the drug scene (which is standard practice for secret service agents, to damage the reputation of any woman), he reveals information that is personal: 1. He (or she?) knows she didnot sleep at home Monday evening 9 September. 2. He shares a picture of Joanne Wilson. 3. He declares her a missing person. 4. He knows she left her passport and belongings with Steve. 5. He describes her body in detail, full naked.
- September 10 around lunchtime, Joanne goes to the pub AVC in the Warmoestraat in Amsterdam. Boyfriend Steve frequently works there as a bartender, but not that day.
- In the pub are (among others) the bartender, the kitchen chef, a girl called Mandy Moore (from UK, living in NL in Warmoestraat), and Louis Hagemann (NL).
- At 1300h a colleague from Hotel Kabul arrives. She is a friend: Penny (HongKong). Penny heard at the Hotel Kabul how Joanne has been fired and wanted to speak to her about “How to get some social benefits in the Netherlands”. They have some drinks.
- Louis talked with Joanne at the pub and he leaves at 15.00h or 15.30h.
- Joanne and Penny leave together at 16.00h. Joanne tells Penny she will meet Louis at Central Station. Together they walk towards Central Station, where Penny sees Louis waiting for Joanne. They part ways. [They agree to go swimming later that week]
- Penny and Steve meet at September 12 (Steve never met Penny before in person) and both realize she has been missing for a few days now. Penny tells Steve, she last saw her at Central Station with Louis. Somehow Steve refers to this day as Monday in the police report, while Penny talks about Tuesday. [How often saw Joanne Penny?]
- September 13, boyfriend Steve officially reports Joanne Wilson a missing person.
- September 17 or 18, two police officers conducted a neighbourhood search in Warmoestraat. They learn Joanne has been seen in Amsterdam Bijlmer. This might be true, but just as likely, it was a smoke screen.
- Around the same time, a police officer called Theunissen, tells boyfriend Steve, how he saw Joanne Wilson in company of two black man in the Bijlmermeer area of Amsterdam. She was beaten in her face. [I wonder why the officer didnot do anything. This might be true, but just as likely, it was a smoke screen.]. As a result, Steve spends the next ten days wondering around the Bijlmermeer area looking for Joanne Wilson.
- Oddly, on October 17, the informant #300 again is able to give an update to the police about what Steve has done. He knows with whom Steve has been looking for Joanne and where. He knows Steve obtained a gun from the Hell’s Angels to support him in his search. This informant slanders everyone involved, including Joanne, Steve and Louis.
2. Like in the Anouschka Weezenbeek murder case, Peter R de Vries seems to have made some mistakes, when representing the case of Joanne Wilson to the public. Why is that?
- Joanne walked towards Central Station to meet Louis on September 10 [not 20!].
- He suggests Joanne meets Louis as some sort of “date”, while she has a boyfriend.
- Like with Anouschka, 3 weeks later they find her body (body parts) [not 1,5 weeks!]
- With the limited info available, surprisingly he doesnot even mention she got just fired.
3. I know Peter R de Vries sometimes helps to (not solve, but) cover-up, when crimes are committed by high-profile criminals. There are signs this is the case with Joanne Wilson.
- The way her body was cut in pieces is similar to other unsolved murder cases in NL.
- Bodyparts were dumped in the Willemsluizen, a central location, and twice, a week in between, in that same location: like who-ever did this believes he can not be caught.
- There was hardly any media attention nor was her murder properly investigated.
4. What are odd details in this story that might reveal how they have worked to catch her?
- She worked as a chambermaid in hotel Kabul in the Warmoestraat, which is an area where professionals might “hunt” for girls who “never will be missed”. Mind you, Joanne Wilson worked in a hotel and was not a prostitute, nor without social contacts!
- She was fired a few days before she disappeared, which makes someone an easy target.
- On Tuesday the Fl. 650,- is deposited to the bank, while Joanne left the house Monday.
- An anonymous informant #300 is way too well-informed on the situation around missing person Joanne Wilson (he reports her missing on September 10!). He already knows also, she did not take her passport with her on Monday! Oddly, he even describes her pubical hair, but says it is red/brown, not consistent with Steve.
- Friend Penny, with whom she walked to CS, had planned to go swimming on 12/9.
- Steve and friend Penny refer to the same “day she went missing” differently, as respectively Monday (Joanne goes to see Penny) and Tuesday (Penny meets Joanne).
- Police officer (!) Johannes Theunissen might have said he saw Joanne in Bijlmermeer?
- Louis goes looking for Joanne together with Steve, because he is worried (or perhaps to make sure no-one will tell Steve honestly where she really is?).
- Mandy Moore, a closer friend of Joanne Wilson, has not been questioned at all?
- The anonymous informant #300 remains well-informed about Steve’s attempts to find Joanne Wilson. Either they are followed, the informant is Steve, or Steve is with #300.
5. I do not know what happened. When this is planned ahead, they will manage events in her life to control what she does: so she will walk right into a trap. A possible scenario:
- In my opinion, this has been the work of a larger group of organized criminals.
- Hotel Kabul is told they must fire her, on exactly that day: September 7.
- As a result, Joanne is open for certain suggestions. When someone promises a job interview? And her bank office can expect a visit from her to deposit the Fl. 650,-m likely on Monday September 9. Did they ask for her passport too?
- Louis (or someone else) Sept 10, tells her she can drop-by later at a hotel for a job?
- She meets Louis at Central Station, perhaps so they can walk together to a bar/hotel/restaurant, opposite the station, in order to meet someone with the promise of a job interview? Joanna will likely simply follow Louis -or anyone- keen for new job opportunities. Moreover, most people don’t tell everyone about a job interview. A job interview on the same day, is typically the kind of meeting one might keep quiet about?
- There are many bars, hotels and restaurants around Central Station. Traffic is such, most people will not remember who they have seen walking down the street.
- This also explains why Joanna doesnot tell friends what the appointment is about: Most people do not talk about job interviews they have.
- When inside a hotel, somewhere quiet end of a hallway, her abduction is a fact?
- In this scenario, Louis Hageman is a criminal informant / secret service agent. Also former colleague Penny might be better informed than she suggests.
Again, I do not know what happened to Joanne Wilson. What I do know, is that there has been many very similar murder cases in the Netherlands over the past 25-30 years. Most of these cases remain unsolved. It should stop.
ps. Ik houd het voor mogelijk, dat Louis H. een Joanne Wilson onder valse voorwendselen meeneemt (uitnodigt), om haar hiermee uit te leveren aan haar moordenaars. Ik sluit het uit dat een Louis H. zo dom is om zelfstandig a) Joanne Wilson te ontvoeren op een moment dat iedereen weet dat hij met haar afgesproken heeft, en dan b) haar lichaam te bewaren en op meerdere momenten langzaam te dumpen op plaatsen niet ver van zijn huis. Wat is de kans dat een politie hem volgt, bij hem aanbelt en zijn huis laat doorzoeken? Hij is immers al een bekende van de politie. Als Louis H. een rol heeft gespeeld, dan is dat in opdracht geweest van lieden “higher-up the food chain”.
pps. Informant #300 vertelt in PV’s dat de vriend van Joanne Wilson een grote drugsdealer is, maar in werkelijkheid werkt hij als barman. Ik kan niet beoordelen of Steve tijdens zijn werk als barman ook wat drugs verkocht heeft, maar een grote drugsdealer kan hij niet geweest zijn. Het is waarschijnlijk een leugen. Informant #300 vertelt ook in de PV’s dat Joanne Wilson “met iedereen naar bed gaat” en “bij drugdeals aanwezig is geweest”. Dergelijke omschrijvingen zijn typisch voor geheime dienst criminelen, om zo de status van een vrouw te verlagen. Als zij een slet zou zijn geweest en aan harddrugs verslaafd, zien veel BVD-ers dat als een excuus (zie de moordgolf onder tippelaarsters in Groningen) om een vrouw te ontvoeren/verkrachten/vermoorden. Dat werkt dan helaas ook omgekeerd. Als er een plan is om een vrouw te ontvoeren/verkrachten/vermoorden omdat zij bij iemand in de smaak valt, dan zullen informanten deze taal uitslaan om het excuus te creëren. Het verhaal wordt gecreëerd.
Below an old picture of Kinkerstraat 186 (at the Ten Katestraat). On the right, number 184 can partly be seen. Wilson might have lived on number 182, instead of number 282.